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	<title>Comments on: MoCRI Language Faces Legal Challenge</title>
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		<title>By: Chetly Zarko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chetly Zarko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to Carnahan, she should be removed from office for this - but it won&#039;t happen.

I give the ACLU a bit more credit.  Yes, they litigated the issue in the previous cycle (the &quot;single-subject&quot; issue), but it wasn&#039;t the centerpiece of the case since they didn&#039;t file the initial lawsuit. Their arguments are all directly lifted from the Florida 2000 arguments and I&#039;m sure they hope to expand that precedent even though Missouri&#039;s rule is different. I suspect they hope to brief this argument in more depth and change some judge&#039;s mind. The phraseology is unfair argument is straight out of the BAMN-Michigan playbook (and before) and its never gotten anywhere.  But both arguments were raised - even if only as part of a larger block of issues - in the 2007-08 Missouri cases, so you&#039;d think these cases would be quickly dismissed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to Carnahan, she should be removed from office for this &#8211; but it won&#8217;t happen.</p>
<p>I give the ACLU a bit more credit.  Yes, they litigated the issue in the previous cycle (the &#8220;single-subject&#8221; issue), but it wasn&#8217;t the centerpiece of the case since they didn&#8217;t file the initial lawsuit. Their arguments are all directly lifted from the Florida 2000 arguments and I&#8217;m sure they hope to expand that precedent even though Missouri&#8217;s rule is different. I suspect they hope to brief this argument in more depth and change some judge&#8217;s mind. The phraseology is unfair argument is straight out of the BAMN-Michigan playbook (and before) and its never gotten anywhere.  But both arguments were raised &#8211; even if only as part of a larger block of issues &#8211; in the 2007-08 Missouri cases, so you&#8217;d think these cases would be quickly dismissed.</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvia Wasson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylvia Wasson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 22:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Missouri&#039;s Secretary of State Robin Carnahan&#039;s move to resubmit the OLD ballot language is beyond &quot;irresponsible&quot;. It is outright &quot;cynical.&quot; 

As regards the law suit filed by the ACLU ( Jones et al. vs. Carnahan), I read this frivolous  document in its entirety. It&#039;s false premises are startling.

Under COUNT I.11. and I.12., plaintiffs claim that banning affirmative action programs based on race, sex, color, ethnicity and national origin (considered &quot;5 different groups&quot;)in public employment, public education, and public contracting (considered &quot;3 different public areas&quot;) violates the &quot;single subject rule.&quot; Since the &quot;5 different groups&quot; are immutable characteristics owned by &quot;one&quot; individual, and the &quot;3 different public areas&quot; are actually &quot;one&quot; public area (the public employment sector), it is false and misleading to claim that the &quot;Initiative Petition combines at least fifteen (15) different questions together in a single proposed amendment.&quot; 

furthermore, under COUNT II.17, plaintiffs object to the second clause of Carnahan&#039;s summary statement. Specifically, plaintiffs deem the use of the phrase &quot;preferential treatment&quot; unfair and insufficient, in that it &quot;falsely implies that affirmative action involves giving unfair advantage to certain classes of people.&quot;

FALSELY implies?? Any public employee across this nation knows that the original intent of affirmative action (providing equal opportunity) has long been  transformed to mean &quot;preferential treatment&quot; (aimed at equal outcomes)--- and that indeed results in giving an unfair advantage to some over others.  

Thus, the familiar cycle of legal challenges and counterchallenges will have to be repeated -- and that on account of Robin Carnahan&#039;s cynical move to adopt ballot language that the court  previously found to be &quot;insufficient and unfair.&quot;

Shame on you, Miss Carnahan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Missouri&#8217;s Secretary of State Robin Carnahan&#8217;s move to resubmit the OLD ballot language is beyond &#8220;irresponsible&#8221;. It is outright &#8220;cynical.&#8221; </p>
<p>As regards the law suit filed by the ACLU ( Jones et al. vs. Carnahan), I read this frivolous  document in its entirety. It&#8217;s false premises are startling.</p>
<p>Under COUNT I.11. and I.12., plaintiffs claim that banning affirmative action programs based on race, sex, color, ethnicity and national origin (considered &#8220;5 different groups&#8221;)in public employment, public education, and public contracting (considered &#8220;3 different public areas&#8221;) violates the &#8220;single subject rule.&#8221; Since the &#8220;5 different groups&#8221; are immutable characteristics owned by &#8220;one&#8221; individual, and the &#8220;3 different public areas&#8221; are actually &#8220;one&#8221; public area (the public employment sector), it is false and misleading to claim that the &#8220;Initiative Petition combines at least fifteen (15) different questions together in a single proposed amendment.&#8221; </p>
<p>furthermore, under COUNT II.17, plaintiffs object to the second clause of Carnahan&#8217;s summary statement. Specifically, plaintiffs deem the use of the phrase &#8220;preferential treatment&#8221; unfair and insufficient, in that it &#8220;falsely implies that affirmative action involves giving unfair advantage to certain classes of people.&#8221;</p>
<p>FALSELY implies?? Any public employee across this nation knows that the original intent of affirmative action (providing equal opportunity) has long been  transformed to mean &#8220;preferential treatment&#8221; (aimed at equal outcomes)&#8212; and that indeed results in giving an unfair advantage to some over others.  </p>
<p>Thus, the familiar cycle of legal challenges and counterchallenges will have to be repeated &#8212; and that on account of Robin Carnahan&#8217;s cynical move to adopt ballot language that the court  previously found to be &#8220;insufficient and unfair.&#8221;</p>
<p>Shame on you, Miss Carnahan!</p>
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		<title>By: Chetly Zarko</title>
		<link>http://www.acri.org/blog/2009/01/02/mocri-language-faces-legal-challenge/comment-page-1/#comment-384</link>
		<dc:creator>Chetly Zarko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 20:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blatant disregard for the previous judicial order - reminiscent of Doyle O&#039;Connor in Michigan not certifying MCRI signatures despite a Court of Appeals order.

If Carnahan is a lawyer, you should go after her bar card, and either way seek a ruling of contempt and other legal action.  This proves that the only rational reason for Carnahan&#039;s action or the ACLU lawsuit is solely to force MoCRI legal bills to increase by forcing them to file.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blatant disregard for the previous judicial order &#8211; reminiscent of Doyle O&#8217;Connor in Michigan not certifying MCRI signatures despite a Court of Appeals order.</p>
<p>If Carnahan is a lawyer, you should go after her bar card, and either way seek a ruling of contempt and other legal action.  This proves that the only rational reason for Carnahan&#8217;s action or the ACLU lawsuit is solely to force MoCRI legal bills to increase by forcing them to file.</p>
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