Comments on: Black-Only Beauty Pageants in 2009 http://www.acri.org/blog/2009/05/04/black-only-beauty-pageants-in-2009/ "Race has no place in American Life or Law" Sun, 25 Jul 2010 17:41:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: La Shawn Barber http://www.acri.org/blog/2009/05/04/black-only-beauty-pageants-in-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1340 La Shawn Barber Mon, 04 May 2009 21:10:26 +0000 http://www.acri.org/blog/?p=1610#comment-1340 If you re-read this post and the one Shay quotes from on my personal blog, you'll notice that I didn't contradict myself. I believe in freedom of association and didn't say or imply otherwise in either post; I merely question black-only events. Just because I support freedom of association doesn't mean I can't ever comment on or question the point of certain gatherings. If you re-read this post and the one Shay quotes from on my personal blog, you’ll notice that I didn’t contradict myself. I believe in freedom of association and didn’t say or imply otherwise in either post; I merely question black-only events. Just because I support freedom of association doesn’t mean I can’t ever comment on or question the point of certain gatherings.

]]> By: DW http://www.acri.org/blog/2009/05/04/black-only-beauty-pageants-in-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-1339 DW Mon, 04 May 2009 21:03:16 +0000 http://www.acri.org/blog/?p=1610#comment-1339 LaShawn, Shay of Bookerrising notes you contradicted yourself on this subject. Could you explain the difference between the quote you had and what you are asserting here? I am interested in the difference. Thanks. "Booker Rising response: Let me first note that Oprah Winfrey is a former Miss Black Tennessee, which got her noticed and led to media broadcast gigs as a collegian. The rest is history. Black beauty pageants are no different than beauty pageants seen in conjunction with Italian-American, Irish-American, etc. festivals. Black beauty is often devalued in America (even Black America). What private individuals choose to do with their own funds and their own time is up to them. If you don't like black beauty pageants, don't participate and don't buy tickets to the event LOL. The event name and purpose is clear, so at least it's truth in advertising. Unlike beauty pageants that claim to be open to all, but the winners all look a certain way. This is an example of freedom of association. From Ms. Barber's own website: "If private individuals want to create racially exclusive schools (or hire certain people based on race), that’s their right as private business owners. We have freedom of association in this country, and that freedom includes (or should include) providing services to whomever we want to provide services." Unless government funds are being used for these pageants (which I've never heard of), what's the problem? Or do only whites get to have freedom of association? Be consistent." -From Bookerrising LaShawn, Shay of Bookerrising notes you contradicted yourself on this subject. Could you explain the difference between the quote you had and what you are asserting here? I am interested in the difference. Thanks.

“Booker Rising response: Let me first note that Oprah Winfrey is a former Miss Black Tennessee, which got her noticed and led to media broadcast gigs as a collegian. The rest is history. Black beauty pageants are no different than beauty pageants seen in conjunction with Italian-American, Irish-American, etc. festivals. Black beauty is often devalued in America (even Black America). What private individuals choose to do with their own funds and their own time is up to them. If you don’t like black beauty pageants, don’t participate and don’t buy tickets to the event LOL. The event name and purpose is clear, so at least it’s truth in advertising. Unlike beauty pageants that claim to be open to all, but the winners all look a certain way.

This is an example of freedom of association. From Ms. Barber’s own website: “If private individuals want to create racially exclusive schools (or hire certain people based on race), that’s their right as private business owners. We have freedom of association in this country, and that freedom includes (or should include) providing services to whomever we want to provide services.” Unless government funds are being used for these pageants (which I’ve never heard of), what’s the problem? Or do only whites get to have freedom of association? Be consistent.”

-From Bookerrising

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